Section Overview Stats Bio Splits Game log
Overview Defense Season Team GP TOT SOLO AST SACK FF FR YDS INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD STF STFYDS KB 2024 PHI 17 25 9 16 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 0 0 0 2025 PHI 17 32 15 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 1 1 0 Career 34 57 24 33 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 1 1 0
Ranks are over the players on a 2026 NFL roster who have been read, counting only those who recorded that statistic in 2025 — how many that is . Rate statistics are shown without a rank, because ranking them without a qualifying minimum would put one long run above a whole season of them.
Stats Defense Season Team GP TOT SOLO AST SACK FF FR YDS INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD STF STFYDS KB 2024 PHI 17 25 9 16 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 0 0 0 2025 PHI 17 32 15 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 1 1 0 Career 34 57 24 33 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 1 1 0
Returning Season Team GP ATT YDS TD FC LNG ATT YDS TD KRFC LNG 2024 PHI 17 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Season rows are the regular season only, which is what the source publishes for them. Postseason games are in the game log below, under their own heading and their own total, and they are not counted in these numbers.
Glossary AST Assist Tackles ATT Punt Returns; Kick Returns AVG Average Interception Yards FC Punt Return Fair Catches FF Fumbles Forced FR Fumbles Recovered FUM Fumbles GP Games Played INT Interceptions KB Kicks Blocked KRFC Kick Return Fair Catches LNG Long Interception; Long Punt Return; Long Kick Return LST Fumbles Lost PD Passes Defended SACK Sacks SOLO Solo Tackles STF Stuffs STFYDS Stuff Yards TD Interception Touchdowns; Punt Return Touchdowns; Kick Return Touchdowns TOT Total Tackles YDS Fumbles Recovered Yards; Interception Yards; Punt Return Yards; Kick Return Yards Bio Team Philadelphia Eagles Position Linebacker Experience 4th year College Clemson Height / weight 6' 0" / 225 lbs Birthplace Hainesport, NJ Jersey #54 Status Active
Career history Splits Season 2026 2025 2024
No splits recorded in 2026.
All Splits, home and away Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD All Splits 32 15 17 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Home 22 11 11 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Away 10 4 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
In wins and losses Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD Wins/Ties 15 7 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Losses 17 8 9 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By margin of victory Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 0-7 10 5 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 8-14 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 15+ 3 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
Late and close Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 4th QTR, +/-7 6 2 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Last 2 Min. Half 4 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By stretch of the season Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 1-8 11 7 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 9-16 21 8 13 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By month Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD September 8 4 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 October 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 November 4 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 December 5 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 January 12 5 7 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By day of the week Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD Sunday 24 13 11 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Monday 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Other 6 2 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
Indoors and outdoors Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD Outdoors 30 14 16 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Indoors 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By temperature Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD <40 F 15 6 9 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 81+ F 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
As a starter Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD As Starter 12 5 7 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 As Sub 20 10 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By conference and division Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD vs AFC 4 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs NFC 28 13 15 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs. Own Division 21 9 12 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By opponent Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD vs DAL 4 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs DET 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs GB 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs KC 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs LAC 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs LAR 4 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs NYG 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs OAK 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs TB 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs WAS 14 5 9 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By half Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 1st 6 3 3 0 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 2nd 8 3 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By quarter Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 1st 4 3 1 0 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 2nd 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 3rd 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 4th 8 3 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By down Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 1st 5 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 2nd 6 4 2 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 3rd 3 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 4th 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
Ahead, behind and tied Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD Ahead 6 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Behind 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Tied 6 3 3 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By field position Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD Own 1-20 3 2 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Own 21-50 5 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Opp 49-20 5 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Opp 19-Goal 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
All Splits, home and away Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD All Splits 25 9 16 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 Home 18 5 13 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Away 7 4 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1
In wins and losses Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD Wins/Ties 22 7 15 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 Losses 3 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By margin of victory Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 0-7 13 2 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 8-14 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 15+ 8 4 4 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1
Late and close Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 4th QTR, +/-7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Last 2 Min. Half 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1
By stretch of the season Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 1-8 5 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 9-16 20 7 13 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1
By month Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD September 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 October 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 November 5 3 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 December 5 2 3 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 January 11 2 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By day of the week Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD Sunday 22 7 15 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 Monday 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Other 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
Indoors and outdoors Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD Outdoors 24 8 16 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 Indoors 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By temperature Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD <40 F 12 3 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
As a starter Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD As Starter 11 2 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 As Sub 14 7 7 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1
By conference and division Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD vs AFC 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs NFC 23 9 14 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 vs. Own Division 19 7 12 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By opponent Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD vs ATL 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs BAL 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs DAL 4 2 2 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs JAC 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs LAR 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 vs NYG 13 3 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 vs WAS 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By half Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 1st 8 2 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 2nd 11 4 7 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1
By quarter Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 1st 5 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 2nd 3 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 3rd 3 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 4th 8 4 4 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1
By down Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 1st 10 2 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 2nd 8 4 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 3rd 1 0 1 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 4th 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
Ahead, behind and tied Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD Ahead 15 5 10 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 Behind 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Tied 4 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
By field position Split TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD Own 1-20 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Own 21-50 5 0 5 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Opp 49-20 12 6 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 Opp 19-Goal 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
Game log Season 2026 2025 2024
Date Opp Result TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FUM LST FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 9/4 vs DAL W 24-20 2 0 2 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 9/14 @ KC W 20-17 1 1 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 9/21 vs LAR W 33-26 4 3 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 9/28 @ TB W 31-25 1 0 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 10/5 vs DEN L 21-17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 10/9 @ NYG L 34-17 2 2 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 10/19 @ MIN W 28-22 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 10/26 vs NYG W 38-20 1 1 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 11/10 @ GB W 10-7 1 0 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 11/16 vs DET W 16-9 1 1 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 11/23 @ DAL L 24-21 2 1 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 11/28 vs CHI L 24-15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 12/8 @ LAC L 22-19 OT 1 0 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 12/14 vs LV W 31-0 2 1 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 12/20 @ WSH W 29-18 2 0 2 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 12/28 @ BUF W 13-12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 1/4 vs WSH L 24-17 12 5 7 0 1 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 1/11 vs SF L 23-19 2 1 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 NFC Wild Card Playoffs 2025 Regular Season, as the source gives it 32 15 17 0 1 1 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 2025 Postseason total 2 1 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
The regular season and the postseason are totalled separately because the source counts them separately, and half of these columns — a longest gain, a rating, an average — are not things that can be added together anyway.
A total counts every game. A game appears above only when the source recorded something for him in it, so the rows can be fewer.
Date Opp Result TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FUM LST FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 9/4 vs DAL W 24-20 2 0 2 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 9/14 @ KC W 20-17 1 1 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 9/21 vs LAR W 33-26 4 3 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 9/28 @ TB W 31-25 1 0 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 10/5 vs DEN L 21-17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 10/9 @ NYG L 34-17 2 2 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 10/19 @ MIN W 28-22 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 10/26 vs NYG W 38-20 1 1 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 11/10 @ GB W 10-7 1 0 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 11/16 vs DET W 16-9 1 1 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 11/23 @ DAL L 24-21 2 1 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 11/28 vs CHI L 24-15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 12/8 @ LAC L 22-19 OT 1 0 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 12/14 vs LV W 31-0 2 1 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 12/20 @ WSH W 29-18 2 0 2 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 12/28 @ BUF W 13-12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 1/4 vs WSH L 24-17 12 5 7 0 1 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 1/11 vs SF L 23-19 2 1 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 NFC Wild Card Playoffs Regular season, as the source gives it 32 15 17 0 1 1 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Postseason total 2 1 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
The regular season and the postseason are totalled separately because the source counts them separately, and half of these columns — a longest gain, a rating, an average — are not things that can be added together anyway.
A total counts every game. A game appears above only when the source recorded something for him in it, so the rows can be fewer.
Date Opp Result TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFYDS FUM LST FF FR KB INT YDS AVG TD LNG PD 9/6 vs GB W 34-29 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 NFL São Paulo Game 9/16 vs ATL L 22-21 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 9/22 @ NO W 15-12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 9/29 @ TB L 33-16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 10/13 vs CLE W 20-16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 10/20 @ NYG W 28-3 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 10/27 @ CIN W 37-17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 11/3 vs JAX W 28-23 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 11/10 @ DAL W 34-6 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 11/14 vs WSH W 26-18 1 1 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 11/24 @ LAR W 37-20 2 1 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 12/1 @ BAL W 24-19 1 0 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 12/8 vs CAR W 22-16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 12/15 vs PIT W 27-13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 12/22 @ WSH L 36-33 1 1 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 12/29 vs DAL W 41-7 3 1 2 0.5 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 1/5 vs NYG W 20-13 11 2 9 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 1/12 vs GB W 22-10 0 0 0 0 0 0 - - 0 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 NFC Wild Card Playoffs 1/19 vs LAR W 28-22 2 2 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 NFC Divisional Playoffs 1/26 vs WSH W 55-23 2 1 1 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 NFC Championship 2/9 vs KC W 40-22 1 1 0 0 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 Super Bowl LIX Regular season total 25 9 16 0.5 0 0 - - 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 1 Postseason total 5 4 1 0 0 0 - - 0 1 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
The regular season and the postseason are totalled separately because the source counts them separately, and half of these columns — a longest gain, a rating, an average — are not things that can be added together anyway.
